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No Consensus on Future of Nation-State


Posted: Mar 8, 2010

We asked IEET readers what new paradigm might emerge in the 21st century to replace the nation-state, and the situation is clearly murky.

Responses to a recently-concluded poll showed no agreement on what we might expect. Answers were split almost evenly between the top four choices, with every other choice also getting significant support.

During this century, what will replace the nation-state as a primary locus of power?

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“Other” answers included world socialism, decentralized autonomy, distributed groups combining city states and multipolar blocs, and intergalactic federations.


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If an intergalactic federation will rule over our little provincial planet... I would consider it as a very bad example of globalist oppression of minorities, and I will be the first to enroll my shiny new robotic body in the Space Defense Forces. wink



Resistance is futile Giulio. The glorious forces of galactic socialism will collectivize your carbon in nanoseconds. Swear allegiance and you can have a dacha in the Oort cloud.



Fat chance. We will dissolve the Grand Galactic invasion forces with computronium-eating replicant nanobots. The Earth to its posthuman children! Give me Freedom, or give me Death (with a safe mindfile backup of course). From now on, call me Colonel Nano.



I'm currently reading Snow Crash, and it's impressive how the combination of city-states / corporations / mafias / anarchy / individualism that serves as a backdrop for this early cyberpunk novel, is resonating as false and unlikely. A passé vision of a dystopic, fractioned future inspired by American libertarianism.



We'll get a super-AI probably in the next 20 years. If we are very lucky, we'll get the SIAI CEV sort, and it will behave something like a new more benign set of laws of physics / human nature, and government will become vestigial or obsolete through a lack of conflict. Otherwise, government will become obsolete because there won't be humans.



The future of the family is even more important than the future of territorialism, what we sanitizedly call "patriotism / nationalism"



"A passé vision of a dystopic, fractioned future inspired by American libertarianism-- Hervé Musseau, Paris". Herve' doesn't realize how he is onto something: those in France don't realize how many rightwing libertarians exist in America: TOO many; libertarianism is to be better savored in a very small dose; a libertarian's absence makes the heart grow fonder.



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